The Boys from Old Fitzroy in 2013

By Brutas Mudcake


An errant paddle of a ball over the boundary line, a dubious free kick and the last snatch at greatness for Fitzroy had faded. If the footy gods had have acted with foresight in mind perhaps the result of the 1983 Qualifying Final would have been different and we would this week be celebrating 30 years since old Fitzroy played in a Grand Final.


A four point loss to eventual Premiers Hawthorn in the Qualifying Final turned into a straight sets exit via Essendon in the First Semi Final.  Whereas had the Lions been winners in that nailbiter they would have gone into a Second Semi Final against top placed North Melbourne. Fitzroy had thumped North  by 45 points in Round 2, and then humiliated them by 150 points in Round 13 and they were all that stood in the way of a Fitzroy Grand Final that would have been its first since 1944.


That 1983 team was the best of the Fitzroy teams that grasped for success through the 1980s that also included a Preliminary Final appearance in 1986 and finals appearances in 1981 and 1984. The 30 years have passed and sadly Fitzroy was gone after 13 of them. However the football stories of 2013 have had a distinct Fitzroy flavour of the era, even if the connection has not been made since we are so far removed from this time.


Arguably the three most talked about coaches of 2013 that didn’t have connections to supplement regimes are products of 1980s Fitzroy.


The most sought after coach in football (Paul Roos), the coach presiding over the fairytale rise of the season (Ken Hinkley) and the coach that takes his team into a Grand Final and is widely acknowledged as the coach that has the greatest influence on his team (Ross Lyon), all started their elite football lives at Fitzroy in the 1980s. The Swans also have a continued Fitzroy connection post-Roos with assistant coach John Blakey.


However it’s not just coaching where Fitzroy makes it mark. No less than 3 club CEOs played in Fitzroy teams of the 1980s. Gary Pert at Collingwood, Keith Thomas at Port Adelaide and Michael Nettlefold at St Kilda (who had the afore mentioned deliberate out of bounds paid against him in 1983).

But it doesn’t stop there, Fitzroy cult hero Mick Conlan is CEO of AFL Queensland and was linked with a role at the Brisbane Lions recently.  Scott Clayton is one of the most respected football operators in the country and is responsible for assembling the talent-laden Gold Coast Suns as List Manager, and played at Fitzroy.

A Fitzroy captain, Matt Rendell has bounced back from the controversy of 2012 to pick up a recruiting role at Collingwood. Leon Harris is a Development Manager for AFL Victoria, Tony Woods looks after the International expansion of the game at the AFL and Alastair Lynch is a player manager and Fox Footy analyst. All played at Fitzroy in the 1980s, but it’s not just the players.


Fitzroy’s coaches during the 1980s, Robert Walls, David Parkin and Rod Austin have all had continued influence in footy, Walls and Parkin via subsequent coaching and media and Austin through a long-time role at AFL HQ in footy operations.


For a club that went out of existence in its known form in 1996, it seems to be an inordinate influence given it wasn’t winning Premierships. Contrast Hawthorn during this time and the life-long gravitas Premiership succes gives to its players that sets up media and other football related post-playing careers.


It may be mere coincidence, but much like North Melbourne players of the 90s talk about the lack of facilities and ‘shinboner spirit’ there seems to have been an element of resourcefulness at Fitzroy that has carried on through its alumni.


There was no question that Fitzroy in the 1980s  was the club without a home (3 different home grounds during the 1980s), with a dwindling supporter base, and without a dollar. The poorest of all the poor cousins of the VFL.  They were fighting losing battles on three fronts, and it took significant and creative coaching efforts and innovative recruiting (think the rise of Mark Dwyer from Koroit Seniors to 10 Brownlow votes all during the 1986 season) to keep the team competitive on the field while the wolves were kept form the door off-field.


Did the extra dimension foisted upon Fitzroy players of the 1980s give them a different outlook on the game, a more rounded education with a football club flying by the seat of its pants on all fronts. Walls once fired at Kevin Sheedy about not knowing having the full footy experience , spending his career at successful clubs while Walls pioneered in Brisbane as well as his time at Fitzroy.


Being a Fitzroy player during this time must have been one of the most turbulent atmospheres that a player could ever fall into with the constant talk of financial solvency, relocation, mergers. In a weird way this turbulence may have given these Roy Boys a slice of the resourcefulness amongst football chaos along with their own drive, hard work and talent that has elevated them above the pack in the industry.


It could be argued that the Fitzroy influence in 2013 is greater now than it has ever been since their 1996 demise.


  1. You are right on the money, Brutus. The Fitzroy of the 80’s were everyone’s 2nd team. I loved watching them, particularly Bernie Quinlan. Is he still involved in footy?
    You can add their WA ruckman Ron Alexander to your list as still highly influential in sport. Was inaugural coach of the Eagles, and is now Head of the WA Department of Recreation and Sport.

  2. Malcolm Ashwood says

    Interesting Article Brutas as on the 1 hand you have the Football Industry claiming that
    Football Department spending equates to increased chance of Premierships while you correctly point out the profound influence of Fitzroy Guys who had to learn to be resourceful and resilient is immense I no Keith Thomas speaks fondly of Fitzroy and his learning experiences after coming from Norwood were exactly that The Fitzroy bond remains extremely tight and The Group in General stays in constant contact with the
    Guys using the expertise gathered from each other at there respective clubs
    The Influence of The Old Roys will thankfully continue for a long time yet

  3. Neil Anderson says

    After your reminder of Fitzroy’s fickle finger of fate, all I can say is, ” There but for the grace of God go my Bulldogs.”
    When people ask me how the Bulldogs are going I say, ‘Thank Christ they’re still around when the system’s against them particularly in regard to finances and expansion teams sucking up the best recruits.
    It was almost flukish that Footscray locals rallied in 1989 and won against ‘City Hall’ and avoided a merger. I suppose some Fitzroy supporters were just as glad to see the Roys end up in Brisbane and win the premierships.
    Having our own home-ground would have helped as a base for the uprising compared to Fitzroy who were homeless.
    The numbers of ex-Fitzroy players in coaching and admin would be on a par with the multi-premiershiped Hawthorn now you have mentioned it.

  4. Skip of Skipton says

    Present North Melbourne CEO Carl Dilena was also a Roy Boy originally.

  5. Brutas,

    Incredibly sad your beloved Lions are no longer with us. I can’t even pretend to think what that would be like if it happened to my Cats. Fitzroy was everyone’s second team. If any VFL/AFL supporter was unable to shed a tear (or downright ball their eye’s out) watching that fateful, final match against Freo in 1996 and stomach the painful aftermath, then they had something other than blood in their veins. A horrible day. So haunting was the rendition of ‘Auld Lang Syne’ from Subiaco that day.

    A reference to Mickey Conlan’s wonderful goal in the ’86 Elimination (I was there) has become cliched and one that old ‘Roys probably tire of hearing about from other club supporters. However, it was an amazing moment in a colourful decade of VFL football. If we only knew then the inner turmoil that would ensue in the coming years. If only we could go back.

    Brutas, please take solace in this. My lovely daughter, taking the Switzerland route from her footy-mad parents, independently chose the Lions as her team. She is a proud member and we are proud of her. I’ll never forget the Coodabeen’s singing all those years ago, ‘Deep in our hearts, everybody barracks for Fitzroy’. How true that statement is. How sad they are no longer with us.


  6. Skip of Skipton says

    I recall Martin Pike the day after the 2001 grand final telling the large gathering at the old Brunswick St oval to ‘All go and get stuffed’ etc.

    “everybody barracks for Fitzroy” and ‘Fitzroy are my second side!’ is all such wank. Truth was hardly anyone really barracked for Fitzroy. Ask Martin Pike.

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