Round 4 – Richmond v Collingwood (Floreat Pica Society Report): Rivalry? What rivalry?

Tremendous hype surrounded the build up to this match between traditional rivals Collingwood and Richmond. But I’m not quite feeling it. Sure I’m looking forward to a big game against an in-form well supported club, but as I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s I have very little experience of the Tiger/Magpie rivalry. I have read alot about the great Collingwood v Richmond of the 1920’s and 1930’s when the on-field hatred was at it’s peak. As well as the 1970’s and early 1980’s when these club’s played big finals and poached each others players. But in my era Collingwood v Richmond games have not got near the importance of clashes against Carlton and Essendon. I love Pres Ed’s quote that it is Richmond’s biggest game for 30 years while for us it is just a Round 4 game. Nevertheless I am not confident heading into this game against an in-form opponent after our performance against Hawthorn last week.

From last week Seedsman and Josh Thomas come in for Frost and  the injured Johnson. Goldsack is a late withdrawal, replaced by Macaffer. Swanny will run out in the black and white for the 200th time. For a man who doesn’t like doing media he’s done alot this week, and he always speaks well and with his own style of humour which is a refreshing change from the usual interviews we are subjected to.

Richmond kick the first two goals of the game through Riewoldt and Vickery, they look sharp and are moving the ball well and I fear my pre-match worries have some substance. A good pass from Dwyer to Cloke sees our big forward put one through the middle and we are away. The ball is very hot and much of the first quarter is played under a finals like intensity. We play well in the second half of the opening term but it doesn’t show on the scoreboard and Jake King goals for the Tigers with 10 seconds left in the quarter after a string of mistakes by the Pies in their back half. 1/4 Time Richmond 3-3-21 leads Collingwood 1-4-10.

The second quarter starts with Heath Shaw somehow beating Riewoldt in a one-on-one in the Richmond goalsquare. I hope this is the last time this pair is one out during the game. Elliott passes well to Cloke and he goals. Luke McGuane beats three Magpie defenders on his own and goals. Elliot marks strongly and a Clarke goal results from his pass. A Cloke assist sees Sidebottom goal and we are in front for the first time. We miss a few set shots then Richmond goal again. Elliott gets cleaned up and looks in trouble. Cotchin gets a free for in the back when he should have been penalised for holding the ball. The umpires love him, get on Cotchin for the Brownlow. Steele goals and we are back in front until Richmond once again score a goal in the dying minutes of the quarter to take a 3 point lead into the main break. 1/2 Time Richmond 6-5-41 leads Collingwood 5-8-38.

We need someone to take hold of the game and Cloke stood up in a big way, kicking the first three goals of the quarter. The Collingwood chant goes up and we are in control. An 8 goal quarter by the Magpies has put the game in our grasp despite Richmond kicking the last two goals of the quarter. Steele and Elliott always look dangerous up forward when Cloke doesn’t get it, Swan and Pendlebury play their best quarters of the match, Hudson is proving a great ruck option and the Q-Stick is marking strongly and adds much to this team. 3/4 Time Collingwood 13-12-90 leads Richmond 8-6-54.

The last quarter sees both teams kick 3 goals to see the Pies run out 34 point winners. Daisy plays a great last term as does Swan whose goal brings a giant roar from the Collingwood army. Dwyer rounds out another good game with a goal and Cloke ends up with 7 majors. The best thing to come out of the early 80’s Collingwood/Richmond poaching is the fact that David Cloke played enough matches in the black and white for his sons to be able to have the choice to go to Collingwood under the father/son rule. Especially Travis. Richmond will be a good team though over the next few years, looking forward to the great rivalry coming back to prominence. Collingwood 16-17-113 defeated Richmond 11-13-79.

Horsburgh Medal Votes

3. Travis Cloke

2. Dane Swan

1. Steele Sidebottom

Collingwood- Cloke 7, Sidebottom 4, Elliott, Clarke, O’Brien, Swan, Dwyer

Richmond – Riewoldt 3, McGuane 2, Vickery 2, Edwards, King, Houli, Maric

Best- Collingwood – Cloke , Swan, Sidebottom, Shaw, Hudson, Toovey, Pendlebury, Lynch, Clarke

Richmond- Cotchin, Deledio, Maric, Houli

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About Luke Reynolds

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  1. DBalassone says

    Nice summar Luke. I thought in the first 10 minutes a comfortable Tigers win was on the cards. But then I noticed something at about the 15 minute mark of the first term: Richmond were clearly winning the ball through the middle, but were handballing sideways and sometimes backwards – this gave Collingwood’s defenders a chance to get back. It was a strange tactic – as everyone knows the way to play Collingwood is to bomb it in to your forward line as quickly as possible. I felt that if the Pies could kick 3 or 4 quick goals Richmond would drop their heads, and lo and behold this happened in the 3rd term. Mind you I thought Collingwood were slightly on top for the 2nd half of the 1st quarter and all of the 2nd quarter, but were just wasteful. The 3rd term was beautiful football indeed, not just Cloke, but also the form of Harry O, Sidebottom, Swan and Lynch who was everywhere. But to me the story of the game was how Richmond overused the ball in the first term when they had a chance to skip to a 3 or 4 goal lead.

  2. Cloke was unstoppable Luke, absolutely unstoppable. and yes, it hurts to see him in the B&W Verticals. But the most important factor was the relentless pressure Collingwood applied. Never mind getting a few regulars back. Jock McHale always said a champion team will beat a team of champions every time.

    And while I’ve got you there, what’s your take on Bucks? I still run into Collingwood supporters who are convinced he’s the right fit. What do you think?

  3. Cheers Damien. I had that bad vibe too in the first half of the 1st quarter. Our third quarter was beautiful football indeed.

    Wrap, I too am one of those Collingwood supporters who are convinced Bucks is the right fit. With some new players coming in the team looks very much less like Mick’s team this season. It’s Bucks’ team now. Time will tell.

  4. Wrap, did you mean NOT convinced? I think this is what you were suggesting in your pre-round Wrap.

    I run into the odd Pie fan or 50, and the jury is back in, unanimous and drinking with the plaintiff. We love him.

    The 8-goal third quarter was half built on the Malthouse pressure plan and half on the Buckley switch-back-thru-the-corridor variation. It wouldn’t have happened two years ago.

    Of course you’ll run into a few Black and White doubters – we’re a broad, eccentric and sometimes cranky church.

  5. Paul Daffey says

    Hi Luke,

    I think it’s significant how little rancour there is from Richmond supporters about the Cloke boys’ decision to play at Collingwood.

    I think RIchmond supporters fully realised that Collingwood was a better club at the time.

    The TIgers’ turn will come.

  6. This rivalry will be just about the biggest in the league if the Tigers can match us onfield in the coming years.

    On Saturday they outnumbered us, I’ve been going to the football for 40 years and have never seen any club outnumber us like that bar these guys in the 70s. Personally, I hate Richmond the most of any club.

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