This week’s side is based on the unlucky players who changed clubs the year prior to their original club winning a premiership. This time I have gone back to players that are from 1980. If I have missed any, please let me know.
FB: Reece Conca Brett Chalmers Jeremy Laidler
CHB: Jordan Clark Jason McCartney Brett Voss
C: Brett Deledio Brent Prismall Shane Savage
CHF: Vin Catoggio Jarrod Molloy Mitch Hannan
FF: Damian Cupido Tyrone Vickery Oliver Henry
Ruck: Brodie Grundy Nick Stevens Alistair Clarkson
Interchange: Tony Buhagiar, Steven Lawrence, Rod Lester-Smith, Thomas Murphy, Barry Young
Others:
Jeff Berry, Todd Breman, David Brown, Andrew Cavedon, Kyle Cheney, Matthew Collins, Robert Dickson, Corey Ellis, Mark Eustice, Tom Fullarton, Mitch Hallahan, Robert Handley, Stevan Jackson, Noel Jenkinson, Kent Kingsley, Trent Knobel, Spiro Kourkoumelis, Nathan Kreuger, Sam Lloyd, Allan Mangels, Daniel McConnell, Anthony Miles, Adam Morgan, Nick Pesch, Braydon Preuss, Robert Pyman, Sean Ralphsmith, Harry Sharp, Michael Talia, Andrew Ukovic, Robert West
Reece Conca
104 games Richmond 2011-2018
Richmond won in 2019
46 games Fremantle 2019-2021
Conca missed the 2017 premiership as he was injured after Round 6 and could not force his way back into the team, finishing the season in the VFL Grand Final. Conca played 18 games in 2018 including both finals and at the end of 2018 he returned to WA as a free agent.
Brett Chalmers
50 games Adelaide (1994-1997)
Adelaide won in 1998
25 games Port Adelaide (1998-1999)
Chalmers played eight games in Adelaide’s premiership year in 1997 with his last game in Round 22. Chalmers would be named emergency for Adelaide in 1997 Grand Final. Chalmers would move to his original home of Port Adelaide in 1997 off season for Ian Downsborough.
Jeremy Laidler
2 games Geelong (2009-2010)
Geelong won in 2011
24 games Carlton (2011-2013)
61 games Sydney (2014-2017)
Laidler played one game in each of 2009 and 2010 at Geelong before he was traded to Carlton for a third round draft pick. After three seasons at Carlton Laidler was delisted and picked up by Sydney as a delisted free agent. Laidler would be an emergency for Sydney in the 2014 Grand Final, and he played in the 2016 Grand Final.
Jordan Clark
32 games Geelong (2019-2021)
Geelong won in 2022
97 games Fremantle (2022- )
Clark was drafted by Geelong from Claremont with Pick 15 in the 2018 Draft. Clark played eleven games for Geelong in 2021 with his last game in Round 21. Clark requested a trade for more opportunities to Fremantle for Pick 22 and an exchange of future third round picks. Clark would be an All Australian in 2025.
Jason McCartney
38 games Collingwood (1991-1994)
37 games Adelaide (1995-1997)
Adelaide won in 1998
107 games North Melbourne (1998-2003)
McCartney played the first six games of the 1997 season for Adelaide before not playing another game for the year due to injury and then the form of the Adelaide season. McCartney was traded to North Melbourne at the end of 1997 for Mark Stevens. McCartney would play in the 1998 Grand Final loss against his old side. In 1999 McCartney would miss a premiership having been suspended in the Preliminary Final.
Brett Voss
35 Games Brisbane 1997-2000
Brisbane won in 2001
135 Games St Kilda 2001-2007
Voss played thirteen games in 2000 after twelve in 1999 and was part of Brisbane finals campaign in both years. Voss was delisted at the end of the 1999 and was drafted by Brisbane with Pick 1 in the preseason draft. Voss was a regular at St Kilda and played in their 2004 & 2005 preliminary finals campaign.
Brett Deledio
243 Games Richmond
Richmond won in 2017
32 Games Greater Western Sydney 2017-2019
Deledio was Number 1 pick for Richmond in 2004 and was a two time All Australian and Best & Fairest winner. After an injury interrupted 2016 and Richmond having such a poor season, Deledio at age 29 was deemed tradeable. Deledio was traded to Greater Western Sydney for first and third round pick in 2017 draft. Sadly, for Deledio his time at Greater Western Sydney was injury plagued, though he managed to be fit for finals.
Brent Prismall
25 Games Geelong 2006-2008
Geelong won in 2009
36 Games Essendon 2009-2011
Prismall seemed to impress each time he played for Geelong, after eight games in 2006, Prismall played the first five games of 2007 averaging 21 disposals but did not play another game for the year and was emergency for the Premiership. In 2008 Prismall averaged 22 disposals but only played twelve games as he was only required when there was an injury. Prismall moved to Essendon for pick 39 at the 2008 for more opportunities but after a knee reconstruction in 2011 he was delisted at the end of 2012.
Shane Savage
56 Games Hawthorn 2009-2013
Hawthorn won in 2014
109 Games St Kilda 2014-2020
Savage was Pick 75 in 2008 draft and debut with three games in 2009. Savage was a regular in 2011-12 and would play in the 2012 Grand Final. Savage played fifteen games in 2013 and though he did not play any finals he was named emergency for the Grand Final. Savage was traded to St Kilda for Ben McEvoy and Pick 18 at the end of 2013. Savage was a regular at St Kilda except for 2020 where he played just two games and was delisted at season’s end.
Vin Catoggio
71 Games Carlton 1973-1980
Carlton won in 1981
9 Games Melbourne 1981-82
8 Games Sydney 1983
Catoggio debut in 1973 and played two games in Round 7 & 8. Catoggio’s third game of football was the 1973 Grand Final where he came in for injured Trevor Keogh. Catoggio played sixteen games in Carlton’s 1979 premiership year but none after Round 17. 1980 was Catoggio best year with twenty games including the Qualifying Final. Catoggio moved to Melbourne in a trade for Greg Wells. Catoggio retired at the end of 1983 aged 29 after two seasons at Melbourne and one at Sydney.
Jarrod Molloy
59 Games Fitzroy 1994-1996
61 Games Brisbane 1997-2000
Brisbane won in 2001
49 Games Collingwood 2001-2003
Molloy started his career at Fitzroy and was one of eight players that went to Brisbane from Fitzroy as part of the merger. Molloy played every game in 2000 with Brisbane after winning the Goalkicking at Brisbane in 1999. At the end of 2000 Molloy requested a trade back to Melbourne and was traded to Collingwood for Mal Michael. Injuries restricted Molloy to just seven games in 2002 but he did play in the Grand Final against his former team where he had just one kick. In 2003 Molloy played twenty games but none after Round 21 and he was named emergency for 2003 Grand Final.
Mitch Hannan
50 Games Melbourne 2017-2020
Melbourne won in 2021
26 Games Western Bulldogs 2021-2023
Hannan originally started with Footscray VFL side having been recruited from Gisborne in 2016. Hannan was drafted by Melbourne with Pick 46 in 2016 draft and made his debut as a 23 year old in Round 1 2017. Hannan played twenty games in 2017 and played all finals in Melbourne 2018 campaign. After nine games in 2020, Hannan was traded to Western Bulldogs for a third round draft pick. Hannan played seventeen games in 2021 and would face his former teammates in the 2021 Grand Final.
Damian Cupido
13 Games Brisbane 2000-2002
Brisbane won in 2003
40 Games Essendon 2003-2005
Cupido was born in South Africa and was drafted with Pick 6 in 1999 draft. Cupido played six games in his debut year but would miss 2002 with a shoulder injury. Cupido would be traded to Brisbane with Pick 15 for Blake Caracella. Cupido would have his best year in 2003 with 23 games and 39 goals but would struggle for consistency after that and was delisted in 2005.
Tyrone Vickery
119 Games Richmond 2009-2016
Richmond won in 2017
6 Games Hawthorn 2017
Vickery was a forward/ruck who was pick 8 in 2008 draft. Vickery best year was 36 goals in 2011. Vickery had an inconsistent season in 2016 with 17 games for 26 goals and moved to Hawthorn as a free agent. Vickery lost his love for the game and retired at the end of the season after just six games and two goals.
Oliver Henry
25 Games Collingwood 2021-2022
Collingwood won in 2023
62 Games Geelong 2023-
Henry played 15 games for 21 goals in 2022 but requested a trade to Geelong to join his brother Jack there. Henry was traded from Collingwood for Pick 25 and picks that also involved Hawthorn. Henry played most games in 2023-24 to kick 41 and 37 goals but fell out of favour in 2025 and did not play another again after Round 19.
Brodie Grundy
177 Games Collingwood 2013-2022
Collingwood won in 2023
17 Games Melbourne 2023
51 Games Sydney 2024-
Grundy was drafted with Pick 18 in 2012 and once he debut in Round 18 2013, he became a regular. Grundy was a two time All Australian and Best & Fairest winner for Collingwood in 2018-19. Grundy would play in the 2018 Grand Final for Collingwood. In 2022 Grundy played the first six games before missing the rest of the season injured. In the 2022 season Grundy’s replacement Darcy Cameron performed well and with salary cap concerns, Grundy was traded to Melbourne for Pick 27. After one season as Max Gawn understudy, Grundy was traded to Sydney where he played in the 2024 Grand Final.
Nick Stevens
127 Games Port Adelaide 1998-2003
Port Adelaide won in 2004
104 Games Carlton 2004-2009
Stevens was a regular for Port Adelaide where he played in each of Port Adelaide’s finals campaigns from 1999-2001. At the end of 2003 Stevens requested a trade to Collingwood which was not reached and Stevens wanting to come back to Victoria was drafted by Carlton with Pick 2 in the preseason draft. Stevens would win two preseason premierships at Carlton before retiring due to a neck injury in 2009.
Alistair Clarkson
93 Games North Melbourne 1987-1995
North Melbourne won in 1996
41 Games Melbourne 1996-1997
After being a regular at North Melbourne early in his career, Clarkson found himself as a depth player. After three games in 1996 and last in Round 6, Clarkson at the age of 28 was traded to Melbourne for Pick 65. Clarkson played 41 games in two years but with Melbourne finishing last in 1997 Clarkson retired and became the club runner.
Tony Buhagiar
83 Games Essendon 1981-1984
Essendon won in 1981
25 Games Footscray 1985
Buhagiar was a big name recruit from Western Australia, joining Essendon at the age of 25. Buhagiar played every game from 1981-83 including the 1983 Grand Final. In 1984 Buhagiar played fourteen games and played in the Preliminary Final. Despite getting 23 disposals and kicking one goal he was dropped for the 1984 Grand Final and was named emergency. Buhagiar was unhappy and moved to Footscray in 1985 where he played every game before going back to Western Australia in 1986.
Stevan Lawrence
81 Games Brisbane 1995-2000
Brisbane wins in 2001.
39 Games St Kilda 2001-2003
Lawrence was recruited to Brisbane as a father son selection as his father Barry played one game for Southport. Lawrence had his best year in 1999 playing 24 games and then played seventeen games in 2000 including both finals. Lawrence requested a trade to his father’s original club St Kilda for pick 33. Lawrence had three seasons at St Kilda before he was sacked for drink driving discretion.
Rod Lester-Smith
70 Games Hawthorn 1984-1987
Hawthorn won in 1988
39 Games Brisbane 1988-1991
Lester-Smith considered one of the unluckiest Hawthorn players ever. Lester-Smith joined Hawthorn in 1984 aged 24 and played in both Grand Final losses in 1984-85. In 1986 Lester-Smith missed the premiership after sustaining an injury in the semifinal. Lester-Smith played ten games in 1987 but none after Round 22. Lester-Smith joined Brisbane in 1988, and his last game was in 1991 where he captained Brisbane reserves to a premiership.
Tom Murphy
95 Games Hawthorn 2005-2012
Hawthorn won in 2013
18 Games Gold Coast 2013-2014
Murphy was a regular for Hawthorn between 2008-2011, being an emergency in 2008 Premiership, playing Preliminary Final in 2011 and despite only playing six games in 2012 he did play the first two finals before being dropped for the Grand Final and being named emergency. Murphy joined Gold Coast in 2012 as a free agent and played seventeen games in 2013.
Barry Young
53 Games Richmond 1989-1993
76 Games Essendon 1994-1999
Essendon won in 2000
13 Games Hawthorn 2000
Essendon drafted Young with Pick 20 in 1994 Pre Season draft. Young played finals in both 1995 & 1996 for Essendon and in 1999 he played twenty games including the Preliminary Final. Young was out of contract at the end of 1999 and left Essendon after contract negations failed, Young joined Hawthorn with Pick 6 in the preseason draft. Young would retire at the end of 2000.
Others
Jeff Berry
10 Games Richmond 1978-1979
Richmond won in 1980
35 Games Footscray 1980-1982
Berry last played for Richmond in Round 21 1979.
Todd Breman
23 Games West Coast 1989-1991
West Coast won in 1992
25 Games Richmond 1992-1993
Breman did not play a game in 1991 and was traded with Stevan Jackson.
David Brown
69 Games Adelaide 1991-1996
Adelaide won in 1997
22 Games Port Adelaide 1997-1998
Brown played for Port Adelaide in the SANFL and was part of Adelaide 1993 finals campaign.
Andrew Cavedon
23 Games Carlton 1991-1994
Carlton won in 1995
5 Games Fitzroy 1995
Despite a promising start in his first two seasons, Cavedon played just one game in each of 1993 & 1994
Kyle Cheney
14 Games Melbourne 2008-2010
27 Games Hawthorn 2011-2014
Hawthorn won in 2015
44 Games Adelaide 2015-2018
Cheney was an emergency for 2012 Grand Final
Matthew Collins
14 Games Adelaide 1996-1997
Adelaide won in 1998
29 Games Melbourne 1998-2001
Collins played in the 2000 Grand Final.
Robert Dickson
17 Games Hawthorn 1988-1990
Hawthorn won in 1991
2 Games Brisbane 1991
Dickson was emergency for 1989 Grand Final
Corey Ellis
27 Games Richmond 2015-2018
Richmond won in 2019
4 Games Gold Coast 2019-2020
Ellis was emergency in 2017 Grand Final
Mark Eustice
29 Games Essendon 1980-1984
Essendon won in 1985
62 Games Richmond 1985-1988
46 Games Sydney 1988-1991
Eustice played nine games in 1984 for Essendon with his last in Round 14
Tom Fullarton
19 Games Brisbane 2020-2023
Brisbane won in 2024
2 Games Melbourne 2024-2025
Fullarton did not play a game for Brisbane in 2023 or Melbourne 2024.
Mitch Hallahan
6 Games Hawthorn 2014
Hawthorn won in 2015
20 Games Gold Coast 2015-2017
Hallahan last game for Hawthorn was in Round 11.
Robert Handley
23 Games Hawthorn 1985-1987
Hawthorn won in 1988
4 Games St Kilda 1988-1989
Handley played in the 1985 Grand Final and was traded with Peter Russo and Paul Harding for the Number 1 Draft Pick.
Stevan Jackson
38 Games West Coast 1989-1991
West Coast won in 1992
21 Games Richmond 1992-1995
Jackson played in the 1990 Preliminary Final and his last game in 1991 was Round 24.
Noel Jenkinson
57 Games Richmond 1975-1979
Richmond won in 1980
6 Games South Melbourne 1980-1981
Jenkinson last played for Richmond in Round 9 1979.
Kent Kingsley
12 Games North Melbourne 1999-2000
110 Games Geelong 2001-2006
Geelong won in 2006
3 Games Richmond 2007
Kingsley kicked 8 goals in Round 1 2006 for Geelong but would kick just two goals in next each game with his last game in Round 21.
Trent Knobel
13 Games Brisbane 2000-2001
Brisbane won in 2002
41 Games Brisbane 2002-2004
21 Games Richmond 2005-2007
Knobel played three games with his last in Round 8 in 2001.
Spiro Kourkoumelis
62 Games Carlton 1981-1986
Carlton won in 1987
35 Games St Kilda 1987-1990
Kourkoumelis last game for Carlton was in Round 6 1986
Nathan Kreuger
2 Games Geelong 2020-2021
Geelong won in 2022
13 Games Collingwood 2022-2024
Kreuger played in Round 2 in 2021 and also played two games in Rounds 6 & 7 in Collingwood premiership year.
Alan Mangels
88 Games Carlton 1974-1980
Carlton won in 1981
13 Games Geelong 1981-1983
Mangels played the first nine games in 1980 for Carlton but that was it for the season.
Daniel McConnell
2 Games West Coast 2005
West Coast won in 2006
4 Games North Melbourne 2006
McConnell was traded for Pick 13 to West Coast who turned out to be Shannon Hurn
Anthony Miles
10 Games Greater Western Sydney 2012-2013
61 Games Richmond 2014-2018
Richmond won in 2019
17 Games Gold Coast 2019-2020
Miles was a regular from 2014-2016 who played just the one game in 2018.
Adam Morgan
3 Games Port Adelaide 2002-2003
Port Adelaide won in 2004
14 Games Western Bulldogs 2004-2006
Morgan sole game in 2003 was in Round 19
Nick Pesch
31 Games Adelaide 1994-1996
Adelaide won in 1997
4 Games Melbourne 1997
Pesch was traded to Melbourne for premiership player Clay Sampson.
Braydon Preuss
8 Games North Melbourne 2015-2018
10 Games Melbourne 2019-2020
Melbourne won in 2021
10 Games Greater Western Sydney 2021-2024
Preuss played just three games in 2020 with his last in Round 16.
Robert Pyman
16 Games North Melbourne 1993-1995
North Melbourne won in 1996
5 Games Collingwood 1996
19 Games Melbourne 1997
Pyman was Pick 6 in 1992 National draft.
Sean Ralphsmith
4 Games Hawthorn 1988-1990
Hawthorn won in 1991
30 Games St Kilda 1991-1994
Ralphsmith was traded to St Kilda for Pick 44
Harry Sharp
16 Games Brisbane 2021-2024
Brisbane won in 2025
21 Games Melbourne 2025-
Sharp was emergency in 2024 Grand Final and played in Round 25.
Michael Talia
30 Games Western Bulldogs 2012-2015
Western Bulldogs won in 2016
1 Game Sydney 2016
Talia played fourteen games in 2015 with his last in Round 21
Andrew Ukovic
19 Games Essendon 1997-1999
Essendon won in 1999
17 Games Collingwood 2000-2001
Ukovic was traded to Collingwood for Pick 40
Robert West
13 Games West Coast 1991-1993
West Coast won in 1994
7 Games Footscray 1994
West last game was in Round 17 1993
Players that left club prior but already had won a premiership
Gary Ablett Jnr
192 Games Geelong 2002-2010
Played in 2007 & 2009 Premiership
110 Games Gold Coast 2011-2017
Geelong won in 2011
55 Games Geelong 2018-2020
Peter Brown
35 Games Carlton 1976-1980
Played in 1979 Premiership
20 Games St Kilda 1981-1982
Carlton won in 1981
Daniel Butler
45 Games Richmond 2017-2019
Played in 2017 Premiership
107 Games St Kilda 2020-
Richmond won in 2020
David Cloke
176 Games Richmond 1974-1982
Played in 1974 & 1980 Premierships
114 Games Collingwood 1983-1989
Collingwood won in 1990
43 Games Richmond 1990-1991
Peter Curran
109 Games Hawthorn 1983-1990
Played in 1986 & 1989 Premierships
14 Games Brisbane 1991 & 1992
Hawthorn won in 1991
Brandon Ellis
176 Games Richmond 2012-2019
Played in 2017 & 2019 Premierships
75 Games Gold Coast 2020-2024
Richmond won in 2020
Xavier Ellis
86 Games Hawthorn 2006-2013
Played in 2008 Premiership
34 Games West Coast 2014-2016
Hawthorn won in 2014
Lance Franklin
182 Games Hawthorn 2005-2013
Played in 2008 & 2013 Premierships
172 Games Sydney 2014-2023
Hawthorn won in 2014
Glenn Freeborn
55 Games North Melbourne 1995-1998
Played in 1996 Premiership
83 Games Collingwood 1999-2003
North Melbourne won in 1999
Stephen Gilham
1 Game Port Adelaide 2005
98 Games Hawthorn 2006-2012
Played in 2008 Premiership
15 Games Greater Western Sydney 2013-2014
Hawthorn won in 2013
Jack Gunston
14 Games Adelaide 2010-2011
211 Games Hawthorn 2012-2022
Played in 2013, 2014 & 2015 Premierships
17 Games Brisbane 2023
Brisbane won in 2024
44 Games Hawthorn 2024-
Des Headland
52 Games Brisbane 1999-2002
Played in 2002 Premiership
114 Games Fremantle 2003-2010
Brisbane won in 2003
Russell Morris
93 Games Hawthorn 1984-1990
Played in 1986 Premiership
66 Games St Kilda 1991-1994
Hawthorn won in 1991
Anthony Rock
178 Games North Melbourne 1988-1998
Played in 1996 Premiership
44 Games Hawthorn 1999-2001
North Melbourne won in 1999
Peter Russo
162 Games Hawthorn 1978-1988
Played in 1978 & 1986 Premiership
33 Games St Kilda 1989-1990
Hawthorn won in 1989
Clinton Young
116 Games Hawthorn 2005-2012
Played in 2008 Premiership
21 Games Collingwood 2013-2015
Hawthorn won in 2013
Michael Young
37 Games Carlton 1977-1980
Played in 1979 Premiership
15 Games Melbourne 1981-1983
Carlton won in 1981
Players that left club prior that would go on to win a premiership
Darcy Fort
8 Games Geelong 2019-2021
Geelong won in 2022
52 Games Brisbane 2022-
Played in 2024 & 2025 premiership
Paul Harding
11 Games Hawthorn 1987-1988
Hawthorn won in 1989
62 Games St Kilda 1989-1991
43 Games West Coast 1992-1994
Played in 1992 Premiership
Tyson Stengle
2 Games Richmond 2017-2018
Richmond won in 2019
14 Games Adelaide 2019-2020
93 Games Geelong 2022-
Played in 2022 Premiership
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Ron Andrews left Essendon at the end of 1983 to play with Collingwood in 1984. Essendon won the premiership in 1984.
Players that had left club prior but had already won premierships:
1) Alex Marcou played 134 games for Carlton from 1979-86. He played in 3 premierships for Carlton in 1979, 1981 and 1982. In his final year at Carlton in 1986, he played in 5 games. He then left to play for St Kilda where he played 24 games from 1987-88. Carlton won the premiership in 1987.
2) Ken Sheldon played 132 games for Carlton from 1977-86. He played in 3 premierships for Carlton in 1979, 1981 and 1982. In his final year at Carlton in 1986, he played in 3 games. He then left to play for St Kilda where he played 53 games from 1987-89. He then coached St Kilda from 1990-93, with a winning record of 47 wins, 38 losses and a draw. Carlton won the premiership in 1987.
Thanks Colin & Stephen they are three very good ones.
Unsure what I did wrong to miss them
Worried now how many I have missed, sorry
Player that left club prior but had already won premierships:
Rodney Eade played 229 games for Hawthorn from 1976-87. He played in 4 premierships for Hawthorn in 1976, 1978, 1983 and 1986. He played 16 games for Hawthorn in 1987 and left Hawthorn at the end of 1987. In 1988, he joined the Brisbane Bears, where he played 30 games from 1988-90. Hawthorn won the premiership in 1988.
Not quite within your criterion, but Matthew Clarke was at Brisbane when Adelaide won 2 flags, then at Adelaide when Brisbane won 3. Ultimate bad timing, I have always thought.
What a dead-set corker idea, Rod! Oh, the stories each of these players would tell! I am very much looking forward to your team, 150+ game players that retired a year too early.
As Matt says, what a ripper team idea. Not sure if you’re excluding players with a flag(s) already under their belt, but Gary Ablett Jr is surely the most high-profile of those.
Matthew Ryan played 45 games for Collingwood from 1985-1989. He played 2 games for Collingwood in 1989. He then left Collingwood at the end of 1989 and played with the Sydney Swans in 1990, and then the Brisbane Bears from 1991-1992. Collingwood won the premiership in 1990.
Sorry, Rodney, that I keep finding more players.
Craig Bolton played 29 games for the Brisbane Lions from 2000-2002. He played 6 games for the Brisbane Lions in 2002. At the end of 2002, he left the Brisbane Lions and played 170 games for the Sydney Swans from 2003-2010. The Brisbane Lions won the premiership in 2003.
Ryan Gamble played 24 games for Geelong from 2006-2010. He played 2 games for Geelong in 2010. At the end of 2010, he left Geelong and played 11 games for St Kilda in 2011. Geelong won the premiership in 2011.
Dale Kickett played 15 games for Fitzroy in 1990 and 2 games for West Coast in 1991. At the end of 1991, he left West Coast and played 21 games for St Kilda in 1992. West Coast won the premiership in 1992.
He then played 8 games for Essendon from 1993-1994 and then played 135 games for Fremantle from 1995-2002.
Tigers let go of Vickery, Deledio and Conca and won the flag the following year, 2017.
If they stayed it may have been a different result.
Thats the unknown
Lids was still a quality player but had injury problems.
Great pick up Stephen and Alex, I have left some good ones behind. I usually pride myself on my research but I have clearly stuffed up on this one as you have advised some very good name, I mean Ablett Jnr how do you miss him.
Thanks Matt for your kind words.
Thanks Dan, Conca was still at the club in 2017 but left at end of 2018.