Almanac Footy: Characters of the VFA 1987-1994

 

 

 

Victoria’s second tier competition provided plenty of fun, skill, brutality and great characters for well over a hundred years.

 

Of course the AFL has managed to get their claws and influence into the competition, turning it into their own reserves and development ‘baby’, but there was a time when tribal rivalries still existed.

 

It was all very new to me when I arrived in Melbourne at the end of 1986. I had just finished a six year stint with the army and along with a fellow team mate Andy Colenso, had been invited to train with Collingwood.

 

During my travels I was extremely fortunate to have played in a Riverina League premiership with North Wagga and two premierships with Coorparoo in the QAFL, but nothing prepared me for Collingwood’s pre-season.

 

I stuck it out for three months before getting the ‘lemonade and sars’.  Despite the disappointment I loved the experience but naively had no plan B.

 

I met a great bloke at Collingwood, Danny Bourke and he invited me to play at Box Hill in the VFA so I followed him there and subsequently would play the worst ten games of my life.

 

I loved playing in mud but Box Hill City Oval in 1987 resembled Kokoda. We rarely trained on it, preferring the athletics track or a school oval 2km down the road.

 

Added to the challenges was a coach whose reputation as being unpredictable preceded him.

 

Harold Martin was a teacher at Pentridge Prison and a really nice guy but he had a short fuse. I have seen some footage of him playing for Preston in the 70s and he was a bit like the Carl Ditterich of the VFA. Fearsome, dangerous and not to be provoked.

 

Harold will always be remembered for the ‘cherry picker’ moment at Box Hill. Suspended for abusing umpires the previous week, Harold in his wisdom decided that if he couldn’t coach on the ground then he would elevate himself over the fence. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.

 

One of the most interesting footballers I’ve ever met was Brett Cooper. Harold met him at Pentridge where he was doing time for burglary offences relating to his heroin addiction.

 

Brett had played a game for Collingwood and was a powerhouse footballer, similar to a DeGoey. He had dark eyes that saw right through you and I remember one game when he almost single-handedly won a game for us and was chaired off! One of those mythical footballers that often turn up in country footy.

 

 

 

 

I have to put Phil Cleary and Terry Wheeler in this list together simply because their influence over the VFA almost mirrored each other.

 

Both were intelligent, teachers, inspiring coaches and genuinely psychotic if you upset them. I think Terry was the worst because he always had a smiling assassin look about him.

 

Phil’s face was a bit easier to read whereas Terry could inflict damage when you least expected it. Both great men and did so much for Coburg and Williamstown respectively.

 

Tim Rieniets didn’t inflict a lot of physical pain but what he did with his silky skills could destroy opponents. A four time premiership player, two with Coburg, one with Werribee and one with Sandringham, as well as two Norm Goss Medals says everything about this humble champion.

 

 

 

 

One of the now deceased VFA clubs, Oakleigh had a proud history and during the 80’s and 90’s a full forward named Reno Pretto (a commentators dream) kicked 849 goals over 140 games. He played at a couple of other clubs and totalled 1071 goals. He had an effortless style and had an even temperament that you couldn’t help but admire given the amount of punches to the back of his head he received.

 

 

 

Williamstown along with Coburg were hugely successful throughout the 80’s and both sides produced plenty of excellent players with some unusual traits.

 

When I think of Coburg, Gary Sheldon and Ken Ingram spring to mind and Williamstown had plenty of ratbags to choose from! Probably Ian ‘Chops’ Rickman was a player who was capable of the miraculous like his 70m drop punt in the 1990 Grand Final which was soon superseded by Billy Swan’s dodgy 35m ‘mongrel’ to win the game.

 

 

 

 

The other one for me was Saade Ghazi, a man that many opponents totally underestimated. They took one look at this rover with legs like Stan Magro and a body that looked like it had been in a press, and they foolishly thought they were in for cruisy day.

 

Not on your life with Saady! He would have been even better these days running back into open 50m arcs. Saady was deceptively quick and had an extremely high footy IQ. One of Willy’s finest.

 

 

 

 

I only caught the destructive running of Dennis Knight later in my time in the VFA. We (Werribee) played Springvale in one the great VFA Prelim Finals in 1993 and Dennis was reaching his peak. I also admired his captain Rodd Morgan, a genuinely hard bugger who gave everything for his team.

 

I remember Neil Jordan taking over the playing coach role at Preston when the club was in dire straights financially around 1989. Neil was a former premiership player with Preston and a much loved figure.

 

He was an undersized ruckman who led a rag-tag bunch of players to an unforgettable run similar to Hawthorn in 2024. He was a straight shooter and did things his way. The last man I ever saw smoking at the quarter time breaks, Neil is a legend of Cramer St.

 

A big reason for Preston’s success that year and a few previous was Jamie ‘Spider’ Shaw. I always likened him to Joey Ramone. Tall, long arms and huge hands, Spider didn’t mind a quarter time dart and was a superb kick for goal. Laconic and naturally gifted, Spider was a true icon in the 80’s.

 

My old coach Donald McDonald has to be included because some of his stories had me in tears, especially those involving his under nineteen days at North Melbourne being coached by ‘Slug’ (get the boy off) Jordan.

 

Donald was a terrific coach and leader.  He could be a genius and paradoxically at other times an imbecile. He would teach us ‘team first’ non-negotiable rules and then set about breaking them himself!  You could never accuse him of being a bore. A two time premiership coach, he was also a fierce competitor who never took a backward step.

 

Joskun Aziz played in premierships with Williamstown and Werribee. He would have kicked 100 goals in our 1993 premiership year had the grand final not broke out into a riot where he took punches from civilian pitch invaders.

 

Joskun attracted a lot of attention from opposition players and spectators, some of it warranted as he was a very physical player but much of it unwarranted and racial.

 

I always saw Joskun as unperturbed and able to maintain his focus regardless of the circumstances. On the field he oozed charisma and was a beautiful kick for goal. His goal to win the 1993 Preliminary Final sits in VFA folklore.

 

Finally, two icons of Frankston, Jeff Sarau and Robbie Mace close off the list. These were two of the scariest opponents I can remember, and if I’m not very much mistaken, both school teachers.

 

I think Sarau was the most dangerous player I’ve played against. The former Saints ruckman had a huge frame and pointy elbows. He didn’t take kindly to having anyone tackle him, so when you did, you were guaranteed a ‘clip’ on the way out.

 

 

 

 

I have a soft spot for Robbie Mace because the Herald Sun did a survey of 1993 VFA Coaches as to who they thought would win the Grand Final. Mace was the only one to pick Werribee. Below is nice photo of Mace shaping up to Joskun Aziz. I’d still tip Joskun even with Robbie getting some assistance here from a team mate.

 

Both men were involved in a nasty finals game at Trevor Barker Oval in 1989 or 1990 I think. Former Carlton champ Alex Marcou was playing for Springvale and had his jaw broken effectively ending Marcou’s career.

 

The game, as you would expect became extremely spiteful. If I remember rightly Sarau received sixteen weeks suspension and Mace quite a few also. It would be Sarau’s last ever game, much to the relief of every other VFA club outside of Frankston.

 

As my beloved Werribee enter into the club’s seventh grand final this Sunday we wish them well. They have shown enormous resilience and hard work to be a stand alone team in their second consecutive ‘granny’.

 

It’s a different game now. I get it, but I loved those days of mud, deplorable visitors rooms and eclectic supporters.

 

At Werribee we had ‘The Beam Brothers’ and I’ll never forget ‘The Golden Girls’ of Preston.

 

A few of us were sitting in the old stand at Cramer St watching the reserves versus Preston in 1992. There were always three elderly ladies present at Preston’s games. White hair, thermos, sandwiches, cakes and always knitting something red and white.

 

Suddenly a fight broke out on the boundary in front of us and the three of them simultaneously yelled out, “hit ‘im and hit ‘im hard!”

 

 Ahh, those were the days.

 

 

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About Ian Wilson

Former army aircraft mechanic, sales manager, VFA footballer and coach. Now mental health worker and blogger. Lifelong St Kilda FC tragic and father to 2 x girls.

Comments

  1. Ummm, no mention of any player(s) from Port Melbourne, the VFA’s powerhouse. After three reads of the article I can’t find any mention. Was this section edited out of the article submitted?

    A few players listed whose VFL career was very short. Brett Cooper gets a mention. There were a few others whose time in the VFL was brief. Harold Martin, Reno Pretto, also Jamie Shaw had brief careers with Fitzroy. How many of us are old enough to remember Fitzroy? Ian Rickman was another whose VFL career didn’t take off. The last time I went to a match at Arden Street he kicked 6 in a big Footscray victory.

    Memories

    Glen!

  2. There’s no port Glen because they had no characters, just thugs! See the 1993 granny and you’ll know what I mean. The only decent players were the bowden brothers rhett and Sean.. I don’t class underworld figures as characters. I had huge respect for billy Swan at 2 clubs and loved playing at North Port but that’s where it ends.

  3. I recall that Saade Ghazi came over to Central Districts in the SANFL in1990 and did pretty well before returning to the VFA. Memorable because it looked like Johnny Platten was back in a Centrals jumper.
    Jeff Sarau also spent a couple of seasons at West Torrens in the mid-80’s after he finished with the Saints.

    Interesting tale of a league that was a bit of a mystery to most of us in SA.
    It’s a shame what it has become under the AFL.
    At least we now know where you stand re: Port Melbourne!

  4. Thanks Glen The VFA in those days was a bit of a retirement village for ex VFL players. Quite the opposite now of course where it’s all bout development and getting spotted. Sadly Saade has lost his flowing locks but you’re right there were a lot of similarities to Platts. Cheers

  5. Jeez Willo – your footy career sounds like “I’ve Been Everywhere Man”. You must do up a list sometime and explain the transiitions. I’m sure it says a lot about life as much as footy. Great stuff.
    I always thought you’d only played for Werribee in the VFA. Didn’t realise you started with Box Hill.
    Who would be the best footballer to have made the VFA to VFL/AFL transition? I remember Kevin Sheedy’s bio talking about how he was a poor kick when he came to Richmond because of the small, muddy grounds. When did it transition from 16 to 18 men on the ground in VFA?
    I reckon 16 on the field would make AFL a better game today. More space for skills.
    Best of luck to your Tigers today. I’m off to Optus to barrack for Swans Colts in the curtain raiser. Hoping East Perth do a job on the Peel Dockers in the league game.
    In victory – revenge. In defeat – enmity.

  6. Mark 'Swish' Schwerdt says

    Well played Ian

    Good get Greg A with Saade Ghazi, he was certainly a fan favourite at the Ponderosa. Centrals picked up a couple of players from Preston in 1973, Adrian ‘Bear’ Hunt and Phil Ashmead.. Other than that, we didn’t go near the VFA much, although some,e.g. Grant O’Riley went from the Dogs to the VFA.

    At one stage in the 70s, Channel 10 telecast the VFA into Adelaide on a Sunday, but I’m not sure that many of us were switching over from World Championship Wrestling to watch that.

    In the 1988 Bicentennial Carnival (when else?), the VFA side included a Sarau, Wheeler and O’Riley.

    SA had its own quasi-VFA in the SAFA, which operated from 1978-95.

  7. Thanks Pete. Perhaps Terry Wallace and Sam Kekovich were the best known coming from Prahran. Speedy came from there also. I played 2 years of 16 a side. It ended in 1988. I’d like to see it back also. Good luck to the young Swannies and the Royals today.
    Thanks Swish. There was one Preston player Len Clark who played in the 1970 premiership for South Fremantle and he was a gun. My half brother Peter Troode also played in that side. They were coached by the great Hassa Mann. Cheers mate

  8. That’s Sheedy Pete!

  9. As mentioned elsewhere, I enjoyed this trip down memory lane, Ian.
    Especially for a Willy boy it was nice to re-visit a few prominent Willy names.
    It is difficult to get across to my sons’ generation just how big the crowds were at Point Gellibrand in the 80’s.
    Sunday nights in the infamous “Batcave” were huge.
    I regularly see Terry Wheeler, as we grab a coffee from the same shop. You would think that butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth. Chops Rickman is a ripping fella, I played cricket with him. And I played cricket against Saade, geez he could play!!

  10. Thanks so much smokie much appreciated

  11. Kevin Densley says

    Your piece brought back some fine VFA memories -thanks, Willo.

    My main memories are connected to a slightly earlier era, where, typically, my childhood/early teen Sunday afternoons were spent watching players such as the gun full-fowrwards Frosty Miller and Fred Cook on Channel 0 VFA broadcasts hosted by Phil Gibbs.That took place after morning Mass at St Mary’s in central Geelong, followed by a visit to my grandparents in East Geelong, then fish and chips in the family car on the foreshore of Eastern Beach, overlooking Corio Bay.

    Occasionally, also, as a.kid I watched Geelong West play in the VFA at their Western Oval home ground (which had a banked cycling track around the oval). Western Oval was a common visiting place for me back then, as my father rode in various track events there in the Geelong West Cycling Club.

  12. Luke Reynolds says

    Some awesome memories of so many brilliant characters and players in this Ian. Growing up in rural Victoria, the VFA was a TV product for me, with the ABC’s wonderful coverage on a Sunday. I took to following Preston because I liked watching Jamie Shaw and 7 year old me assumed (very much wrongly) he was the brother of the great Tony Shaw. But liked watching every week regardless of whoever was playing. Loved all the different and unusual guernseys and wonderful suburban venues.

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